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Post by dannieboy on Oct 1, 2015 21:17:49 GMT
Dont do twitter, is that Robbins or Knight
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Post by vinnie on Oct 1, 2015 21:28:47 GMT
Robbins
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Post by jeremy on Oct 1, 2015 23:20:33 GMT
Looks like we've got totally mugged on this one. Player behaves badly to get his contract cancelled then walks off to a club a league above for nothing. Not sure this is very good business on our part at all, what was the point in giving him a contract?
As for Jordan, he has got a six game ban coming up after the tunnel shenanagins against Ashton was it, so it looks like the strikeforce is Clements when available plus anyone Stan can get in.
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Post by distantfan01 on Oct 2, 2015 4:49:09 GMT
Michael Frew was released from the tulips last night and I believe has been offered to Stamford. We will wait and see how this one escalates.!
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Post by Marc on Oct 2, 2015 6:09:42 GMT
Couldn't agree more Jeremy. Very well engineered.
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Post by justin on Oct 2, 2015 6:36:54 GMT
Robbins got the last laugh on us dose anyone knows when Jordan ban starts
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Post by Dean on Oct 2, 2015 7:04:26 GMT
Yes, strange if we just allowed him out of his contract? Surely there would have been some fee payable?
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Post by h on Oct 2, 2015 7:15:23 GMT
Unfortunately my penchant for earlier cynicism appears well founded and find myself agreeing with Jeremy in that the speed of this, the very nature of this does indeed leave a very bitter taste in the mouth. Not that I am remotely bothered about our former talismans departure, like nearly every Stamford supporter am actually quite relieved that the poison if you like that has affected the dressing room so badly of late has been removed, but hell, and Mr Greene and RR can deny it till they're blue in the face, this definitely stinks of a structured and quite contrived fait accompli doesn't it?
It is obvious, however heavy the denials woud possibly be, that the only avenue open to Greene to make this move happen would have been to sit him down, physically or metaphorically and whisper in his ears how he would love to have you Ryan old chap, but we cant pay a fee, so for it to come to pass you will have to first get released from your contract, well guess what people?
Though I obviously get your point Jeremy, Robbins doesn't strike me as clever enough to have intentionally behaved badly enough to force through this contract cancellation, it's been going on for too long, and especially as by doing so it would have meant intentionally upsetting so many of his team mates, who incidentally after chatting to a couple last night on FB are "delighted" to see the back of him. Nor does he strike me as clever enough or devious enough, to have played so poorly in order to push it through either, he's simply been playing crap for to long for that.
Though I agree this part is all conjecture, put yourself in Bostons shoes for a minute, well the managers ones anyway, who make no bones, is under immense pressure at the moment. Four wins all season, like us an early FA Cup defeat and worse, for the second time this season at the hands of their nearest neighbours and the fans are now really beginning to get on his case, and he definitely needs an urgent change of form. He suggested last week that he is hoping to sign three players, two of which he has to slap in seven day notices for, suggesting further, as no such notice was received for Robbins that this could well be the third?
I have to admit I have a genuine soft spot for Boston and their wonderful fans, I follow their Twitter updates every game, and chat regularly to a couple including Shaun about whats going on there and would love to see them reach the play offs again. Could Ryan help achieve this, help save Greenes job? Most certainly, but equally as likely he could also hasten any possible departure!
Is he good enough for Boston, for the national league?
On ability alone oh Christ yes. In my opinion he's good enough to play in the National premier. However for any Boston fan reading this, let me sneak in a caveat to that by saying, whilst we know exactly how good he used to be, how good he can be, on the form shown in the last twelve months, and most certainly this season thus far, whilst still popping in quite a few goals (many of which were penalties) he has shown nothing more than UCL form, and worse simultaneously demonstrating an attitude that is more akin to Sunday morning football complete with recorded training ground fisticuffs, hissy fits, and on the pitch strops and arguments.
In short it's a huge gamble for Greene who I guarantee has signed him on what he used to be like not what he is like at the moment. I know he watched the friendly against Histon but he surely wouldn't have seen him play competitively for if he had he wouldn't have even contemplated signing him, and whilst totally ambivalent towards if it will be a good move for Robbins, cant help but care abut whether it will prove to be good move for the great club he is joining, hopefully it will, but am far from convinced. Like us, though for slightly more aspirational reasons, Boston are in a battle, and is Ryan really the kind of person you would like next to you in the trenches?
Shit I think I would rather have Ephialtes and Zachary Smith!
If he gets his head on though, he could be a star and if playing for Boston doesn't cheer the lad up nothing will. He has the pace, the strength and the finishing to be a perfect fit, but I rather think Boston fans think they are getting a centre forward, they aren't.
They are getting a player who on his day (and I can say this courtesy of a good memory) who can be a quite superb wide player with a great eye for goal, and the surprise about this signing is that's not what they are missing, they have quite a few wide men. They are crying out for for another forward, someone to compliment and give competition to Southwell and Jonahs brother who to be fair, is struggling a bit at the moment, and that's just not Robbins, he is a not a central striker, never has been and never will.
But it's time to draw a line now, through subterfuge or pure coincidence he is no longer our player (or problem) the players can now breathe a sigh of contentment, and for our part we wont have to put up with his appalling disciplinary problems any more something of which we haven't even touched on!!
But there were undeniably some great times, and it would be totally inappropriate of us were we not to thank Robbins for all the wonderful memories and many of his quite stunning goals. Normally we would wish all players leaving well, certainly when joining a club like Boston, but mos will feel what would have been a great legacy has been soured somewhat, and it's just really unfortunate that the divorce had to end in this manner.
But hey ho, back to business tomorrow, onwards and in our case hopefully upwards.
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Post by stoneybroke on Oct 2, 2015 8:51:43 GMT
Interesting one this, from all sides. With my neutral head on, and my previous experiences, here's my take on it, for what it's worth but that is the point of a Forum I understand. Going to a few games it is obvious that probably 90% of supporters thought Robbins a waster and disruptive influence and would be glad to see the back of him, however it played out. As he was on a Contract the Manager's hands were tied, in that he would have to pay him even if he wanted to leave him out of the side, thus preventing him using the Cash freed up to bring in new players. From the Director's side, of course they would have wanted a fee for him but again, they would have had to bite the bullet for the good of the Club and to show support for the newly installed Manager. However, for "people" to start bleating about what had gone on before to engineer his departure really sticks in the throat, as, I can assure you, your Club has undoubtably engaged in those same practices over the years and not just with players either! On the whole I think it will prove to be a great move for the Club and a terrible move for Boston! Onwards and upwards.
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Post by krancic on Oct 2, 2015 9:27:38 GMT
"Jordan's 6 match ban" - have to confess that this is the first time that I have heard of this- I thought a low level suspension had been set. (Thought the info on the Ashton thread covered this).
We will miss his presence on the pitch - that's for sure.
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Post by northern uproar on Oct 2, 2015 10:15:16 GMT
Yes, it would appear that we have been mugged again by Boston United, but the flip side is that you have a player in Robbins who was open enough to tell the new manager that he felt his future lay elsewhere. Whatever the manager's own view on the player or the situation, is there really any point in him continuing to pay that player when that money is perhaps better spent on dealing with other obvious deficiencies within the squad? And yes, it would appear that we have lost out on a fee for Robbins, but let's face it, it would hardly be a huge amount and we could be sitting here for weeks, months even, continuing to pay him, whilst holding out for someone to come along brandishing a cheque, when all the time Robbins' stock is diminishing.
So we move on.
The new manager has been in position for just over a week, and one assumes that having initially run the rule over the squad at training last Thursday, we will begin to see the fruits of any seven day approaches he has put in. It will be interesting. When he took over last week he was quoted as saying that he knew where the deficiencies were in the squad - now we have a dearth of strikers.
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Post by h on Oct 2, 2015 12:21:43 GMT
I find myself in total agreement with Stoney here in as much as we most certainly, as indeed every club has resorted to practices neither endorsed and most certainly wouldn't be approved by anyone in a blazer.
The reason this irks with me, and in part as jeremy alluded to Stoney is that for this to happen, and in this fashion, there surely needs to be a conspiracy. I don't buy in to the fact, that he was purposely behaving badly to engineer a move, to me that's absurd, I think its far easier to say, and certainly as we have all witnessed Mr Robbins can be an arsehole both on and off the pitch and has just been reverting to type, its why I feel no annoyance at him going, simply the manner in which this was all designed.
If I was a Boston fan, I would be asking myself why a small club like Stamford, would be more than happy to release a player that eighteen months ago was so immense for us, knowing that we will get no fee, but will get him off the pay roll......therein lies the problem you are now likely to face
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Post by Marc on Oct 2, 2015 17:28:38 GMT
I don't think he was engineering a move for a considerable length of time, only the last week or so once the management had changed. Under the last regime players had been allowed to get away with underperforming and generally being disruptive. Once a stronger new broom had come in the game was up and it was fairly clear from social media that he wanted out. Which doesn't really help team spirit. But I agree with Stoney, happens everywhere in NL football. Think how Deeping felt when Tung took over the half squad to Stamford in pre season as an example.
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Post by jeremy on Oct 2, 2015 21:32:18 GMT
See Ryan has had a go in the Mercury critical of the new manager etc....would have still been here if Staffy was etc. Does anyone think that it might have occurred to him maybe if he had put in a better shift and not disrupted the dressing room Staffy would still be here! What a clown!
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Post by h on Oct 3, 2015 7:03:34 GMT
I must admit was speaking to people yesterday and even though we couldn't really afford to, if I had read his comments before agreeing to tear his contract up, I would have been tempted to say no and stick him in the bench for the season.
So results are poor, or we are playing badly, or you're not enjoying it, it happens. Get in with it you Pratt. Really angry reading that.
Staffy didn't help himself with Robbins to be fair, he treated him too well, according to some of the lads, allowed him to much leeway and didn't come down on some if his antics and behaviour as perhaps he should have done, perhaps if it was other players would have done, and more so than anything went a long way in creating the dressing room disharmony and discontent.
For months the man has at best gone through the motions and at worse with his totally woeful performances completely disrespected the fans who supported him, the club who paid him and the manager who picked up.
Utterly classless
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Post by Gary on Oct 3, 2015 16:05:29 GMT
Unsurprising to see he scored on his debut.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 17:09:05 GMT
Unsurprising to see he scored on his debut. And according to Twitter, set up their other two goals as well..
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Post by bourneboy on Oct 3, 2015 21:22:21 GMT
Early days boys.
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Post by h on Oct 4, 2015 12:40:21 GMT
No one will or has ever disputed his talent, of course it's there and as such has always got it in him to play well, and as he tried to explain, the only reasons he has been so shite for us this season, and one also assumes put so little effort in, was down to the fact that we weren't playing well, had poor results, Staffys departure left him feeling lonely and with no buddies and bless his soul he wasn't enjoying himself!
Have to say though if he does now start playing well week in week out for his new paymasters, whilst great for Boston, it will further demonstrate when weighing up the mediocrity he demonstrated for us just how pathetic his attitude can be when the roses are not all blooming in the garden
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Post by sparkymark on Oct 18, 2015 7:46:52 GMT
Did read on the Boston forum last night from a fan saying.." Although he scored again, Robins is lazy and drifts in and out of the game to much, to busy diving and arguing, I hope the manager can keep him happy" Did make me laugh!! ?
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Post by StamfordShrew on Jun 4, 2016 22:29:59 GMT
According to Ryan Robbins Twitter, he is returning to us
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Post by stillfatoldgit on Jun 4, 2016 23:18:02 GMT
Big mistake if true. Just hope that Drury knows what he would be letting himself in for. Robbins may score a few goals but that squad togetherness that Gresh worked to hard to achieve would be in grave danger. His attitude to management stinks. Once bitten, twice shy.
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Post by peekay on Jun 5, 2016 1:00:42 GMT
from twitter Bobbzz @robbins_111 8h8 hours ago
Looking forward signing at Stamford again get back to firing goals, playing an most importantly winning I am hungry #Daniels
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Post by justin on Jun 5, 2016 6:49:52 GMT
that is great news for stamford looks like drurry is building a very good squad for next season up the dannies
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Post by h on Jun 5, 2016 9:01:16 GMT
Personally I am not sure if Robins re-signing would be good or disastrous news for the team, and anyone who can hand on heart be convinced it will be the former has very short memories indeed.
His talent is beyond question, but unfortunately you could never say the same about his attitude or his application which stinks, and of which last season plumbed absurd depths, and it's all very well suggesting as I remember him doing that he would have stayed if Staffy hadn't been relieved of his duties, but hold up, one of the biggest reasons for his removal was the very form he had shown (or more precisely not) and worse the well recorded impact his ego and recorded narcissism had on his team mates at the time.
Ask the Boston supporters, or manager how they rated his stay last year, ask the same question to the supporters and manager at Corby and see if you can spot some consistencies. I guarantee you will, and whilst he may profess to be hungry,let's hope he is, but at the moment that remains to be proven I am afraid, and if he does come back, not only does it to me suggest there were hardly queues forming around the block to get his autograph on a registration form he will need to perform a very high level and show a hell of a lot more of on field commitment than he did last year which at times bordered and at times even went beyond embarrassing.
That said, this is football, nothing surprises me, and if he does come back with a point to prove, if he does come back a much more humble individual than when he left, after his move that many suggested he personally navigated then he and we will be a lot richer for it.
Have always maintained, the lad should be playing a good deal higher up the pyramid than he has, but equally the fact that two managers at Step 2 have taken an alternative view doesn't really come as a shock does it, and as I know only too well, sometimes, ability on the pitch can be genuinely stymied, or in his case hidden by the attitude that accompanies it.
The good thing, the best thing I suppose, about this return possibility happening, as it certainly looks it may, comes with the undisputed fact that Gresh will most certainly not even entertain, or even allow the Robins of last year to play for Stamford this.
If the penny has dropped, and the lad has suddenly realised that to forge, or should that actually be salvage any kind of reputation for himself, which with football being such a small incestuous business, more so at our level players attitude can be everything, then if he does come back, we could be huge beneficiaries, if he doesn't and last seasons status quo ever repeats itself then my advice is to don't even bother to turn up for training.
I'm afraid on all the evidence we have at our disposal, that I personally am unconvinced of that happening, or certainly wouldn't were it not for the fact that Drury in wanting him back, or even being prepared to take him back which at some stage must have happened, must believe that he can can get the best out of him, and on that basis alone, and as I want the team to be successful more than I ideally want such individuals to stay clear of Borderville, I will if not welcome him back, certainly give him the opportunity to show us all he was or is the player we know he is capable of being.
If he can do that, not only would it be great for the team, but with so many fans being of the fickle variety it won't be long before he claims the star billing his talent deserves....but we shall see.
I guess it will also be fascinating to see how the other players respond to the news.
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Post by jeremy on Jun 5, 2016 9:19:25 GMT
Surprised to see this, but if he does not cut the mustard I'm sure Gresh will ship him out sharpish. Fortunately not that many left in the squad that played with him before so probably no great need to worry about prejudices in place.
Also remember he has a track record for joining clubs in the close season and moving on before the season starts, so no guarantee he will be here on 13th August. I think the previous time he joined us he had been paraded at the Walks holding up the scarf etc!!
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Post by 35 on Jun 5, 2016 17:17:30 GMT
Return of the 'Sulk'. Not for me I'm afraid. I have read the analysis by h but I ask what's the point.? Last season the team improved and almost pulled off avoiding the Relegation zone because of their commitment and team spirit not because there was an outstanding star in the team. It is undeniable that this player has got form And little loyalty. The manager has done a good job and as always it's his call. Even if he did prove a success my opinion would not change. Before anyone says we all need a second chance I suggest you look at thr cv.
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Post by justin on Jun 5, 2016 17:34:55 GMT
35 robbins could be the diffrent this season drurry will not let him upset the team also not on contract he will have to earn is place in the team welcome back robbins looking forward watching him bang in the goals
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2016 19:19:55 GMT
When people have OFFICALLY signed, then I'll pass comment...
Until then.....
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Post by Dean on Jun 5, 2016 20:11:23 GMT
He can score goals and would likely score double in a season than Newman. Yes he can be difficult to manage, but he's a good striker. Drury won't suffer him if he's a plank again
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