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Post by markward on Aug 21, 2009 13:50:11 GMT
Greg Strong, player-manager of Principality Welsh Premier club Rhyl, has signed wingman Tyrone Kirk on-loan from Coca-Cola League Two side Macclesfield Town.
Kirk who attracted the attention of Sheffield United before the Silkmen offered him League football, making his debut in a Carling Cup tie against Leicester City, but he was replaced at half time and has now been allowed to leave the Moss Rose temporarily.
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Post by Dean on Aug 21, 2009 14:59:54 GMT
that's a shame for the lad.. 45 mins isn't long enough to properly judge.. Maybe he's not shown much in training?
ps one things for sure.. I ain't gonna go watch him in Rhyl!! (what's a Welsh rarebit? A virgin in Rhyl)
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Post by rjhglover on Aug 21, 2009 16:15:41 GMT
that's a shame for the lad.. 45 mins isn't long enough to properly judge.. Maybe he's not shown much in training? I agree it is a shame but I hope he does well on loan there. Rhyl are away to Airbus UK Broughton tonight and they make a return trip to the Airfield Tuesday night in the League Cup. If he does play tonight, highlights will be available tomorrow on Sgorio Cymru 21.30 on S4C Digidol (Channel 135 On Sky).
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Post by Dean on Aug 21, 2009 16:22:57 GMT
that's a shame for the lad.. 45 mins isn't long enough to properly judge.. Maybe he's not shown much in training? I agree it is a shame but I hope he does well on loan there. Rhyl are away to Airbus UK Broughton tonight and they make a return trip to the Airfield Tuesday night in the League Cup. If he does play tonight, highlights will be available tomorrow on Sgorio Cymru 21.30 on S4C Digidol (Channel 135 On Sky). Bloody hell Rob!!! Are you a regular watcher of Sgorio Cymru?!
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Post by tyronekirk on Aug 21, 2009 16:54:07 GMT
hello again just thought i should post a message to square things up letting you know why i've gone on loan to rhyl.i was going to leave macclesfiled because getting up at 6 every morning the travelling of 3 hours there and 3 hours back after 2 weeks of doing that daily i lost alot of weight and started being sick and having really bad headaches so keith sent me to see the club doctor and after he examined me from the day i signed to the day i seen the club doctor (13 days) i lost 11 pounds getting up at 6 in morning and doing that travelling was killing me .the club doctor said if i carried on doing this journey every day i would have a physical breakdown after he told keith this that meant i wasnt aloud to do the travelling because a football club has to take the advice off the club doctor so obviously i tried to get some digs sorted there but the club has 2 lots of digs which are all full up so keith couldnt help me there and we worked it out if i paid for my own place there after the rent to be truthfull i would be skint so it wasnt a option so the only thing we could do was cancel the contract by mutual agreement but keith told me he really wanted to keep me so he said leave it to him and he would try and sort something and thats when he said rhyl were very interested in taking me on loan i wasnt sure to be truthfull at first but after the rhyl manager rang me i found out the amount of scouts from championship clubs at games and rhyl left winger on the verge of signing for coventry which proved this plus playing in succesfull side seemed common sense and good place to kick on but the main thing was i would only have to turn up to games meaning i would only be travelling twice a week at most and only to the managers house hour and half away so i could train at home eat properly and be mentally right for games ...
just want to say also great start to the season lads your always going to be the first result i look for where ever my career takes me miss the place loads but like i promised before il be up to watch a game very soon and i know the club has nearly a whole new team but ross, miles, jp, and especially stebbo are vital this season see you soon
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Post by h on Aug 21, 2009 18:15:00 GMT
I think it's great that Tyrone comes on here and informs us all in such a manner, and everything he says sounds very plausible, and as one who does 1500 miles a week, I know how travelling such distances can affect you
Not wanting to put down the lads achievements, and not wanting to dampen his future ambitions, but as one who thinks he's reasonably intelligent, I cant work out how the lad didn't stop to consider the logisitics of getting to Manfield every day
In petrol money alone, such an arduous journey, )and I sympathise greatly with him, it would be very arduous, both mental and physical) would cost what £150 a week, and without claiming to be an expert in finance, surely such expenditure would have been taken into consideration before agreeing the move?
Further more, surely for that kind of money he could have easily put his name down for a local 1 or 2 bedroom flat, or at best negotiate such payment, part or in full when agreeing to join?
I hope that doesnt sound harsh, it's not intended to be, nor is it meant to be critical. I have purred at the lads whizardry on the pitch and think its great that he feels enough for the club that he bothers to keep us up to date with events, but surely he must have taken the trek into consideration??
Either way, like all Daniels supporters, I wish him well and hope that it works out well in sunny Rhyl I just hope the club is better than the place as it'sa truly a god foresaken place, even the tide doesn't want to come in, it's that bad ...uuuggghhhh I have visited Rhyl for pool tournaments in the Robin Hood, and it's the only place in the universe where they have three Matalan shops and where £1 shops outnumber the hoards of two feet seagulls
Anyway it would be great for many supporters to see him back at the club even if it is only at the bar
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Post by tyronekirk on Aug 21, 2009 18:54:19 GMT
if im being truthfull h all ive wanted to do for the last 2 years is get back into pro football so soon as macc offered me a contract i jumped in with both feet without even thinking about travell etc !! after a couple of weeks of travelling when i was feeling weak ill etc only then i started thinking what have i done!!! the travelling was too much for me and im big enough to admit i had made a mistake of being to desperate to get into pro football and as for money wise im humble enough to admit what i get paid is a fraction more then what i picked up at stamford unfortunately it wasnt enough to get a place there.. really happy to go to rhyl its a chance for me to play my football and hopefully move on to where i want to be ... as for the place rhyl cant be any worse then where i live now the only time i see the sun is next to the daily star on the news stand
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Post by footballlover1 on Aug 22, 2009 20:28:32 GMT
Good luck Tyrone. Take your chance at Rhyl and do well and thanks for posting. And for those who don't know, Rhyl are a club with an excellent pedigree, far superior to anything in our league.
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Post by Dean on Aug 23, 2009 0:28:39 GMT
Pob lwc Ty...da iawn bachgyn!! Hawddamor i Stamford.
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Post by guest on Aug 23, 2009 1:02:10 GMT
get a life you sado's he did'ent cut it,not good enough all round player, great with the ball at his feet, but thats it
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Post by sparks on Aug 23, 2009 9:58:28 GMT
Lets just sat it like it is Guest........ but I also beleive there is some underlining issues surrounding Kirk's message. Personally I beleive he has gone about acheiving his ambitions in completletly the wrong way.Not wanting to knock the lad's ambition of playing League football but maybe lessons in geography could be useful, surely Rhyl is at least another hours journey time from Moss Rose and the very fact as written by Tyrone that he only has to travel to games and not train with his team mates will not boost any player bonding and cannot be a healthy situation................. a few tounge in cheek messages contained within this thread and one shouldn't read to much into them....... Best of luck Kirky and I hope you will get settled at some point.
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Post by h on Aug 23, 2009 10:08:03 GMT
I think people like "the guest" who comes on and posts under the annonimity that this and similar forums allows is a knob
Not for his opinions but for the fact that he can hise under the umbrella of obscurity
I too think Tyronnes lack of physical strength, and defensive failings, will prevent him going higher, but they are both areas he can work on
God, what would we give to see him back here. I beleive,reading between the lines, that the old 'grass is not always greener' springs to mind, though I am not pompous enough to insist it's so.
I believe he should have joined Boston, where 1000 home supporters would have drooled over his skills, a club I still maintain is the best, certainly my lad has been involved in, in not doing so, I think was the bad decision
But hey, I wish him all the best, and with determination and a willingness to work on his short falls which (which everyone,even you the 'guest' have) will become more evident the higher up he plays who kows he might fulfill his dreams, and my adive is not to give up on them...ever
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Post by spinningdog on Aug 23, 2009 11:41:41 GMT
As a Boston fan I've got to agree with h.Just over 1500 at the game yesterday,which lets be honest is a match for what Macc get.I can't comment on Rhyl as I know nothing about them as a club,but I would doubt they have a better record than Boston United for players going on to the Football League.Anyway,whats done is done and I wish Tyrone all good luck for the future. P.S.-h ,has your boy got sorted for this season?-I think(like many others at York Street)it's a great pity that something couldn't have been sorted to enable him to stay with Boston United.
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Post by h on Aug 23, 2009 12:23:32 GMT
No not yet, spinningdog, though appreciate you and other Boston fans asking.
Courtesy of a two match ban, and the fact that through pre-season when he still had the knee injury he carried for the last four matches at Boston, he was even talking about not playing at all this year, he was that low, he really loved Boston and the fans
But with work being hard to come by for many people, particuarly youngsters who haven't excelled academically.he is enrolling at college to learn a trade, and this will dictate where he goes, especially as he doesnt drive now
Should know this week
Hope the club have a great season this year, and I stand by my commenst about how good a set up and good a club it is, and back on subject I dont think Tyrone knows what he actually missed out on.
Signing for Boston, playing for their great supporters and I would imagine in consideration of the reports I get about other (non youn gsters) wages which seem to hover around the £275/300 a week, is with hindsight a move Tyrone is probably regretting big time As you say, playing in front of 1500 people at that level, is amlmost unprecedented oin the Unibond, and I know it was that, coupled with the fact that they all sang theres only one Ricky Miller every time he was on the pitch that gave the boy such a buzz
Who knows if Tyrone can find his way to Rhyl, just very the mention of the place makes me cringe, (more people on the dole in Rhyl incidentally then any other place in the UK!) then possibly at some stage of the season he could yet still find his way to the Jakemans
One point though spinningdog, I couldn't understand the Boston supporters slating tyrone for his, If I haven't signed for a bigger club by the 8th of August he would play for you this year. Suely they dont resent anyone wishing to better themselves, and it's actually a shame.
I think, more so than other players the managers have signed, that the lad could have done a really good job at Boston, though I do wonder how he would react when some of the cavemen that masquerade as defenders in the Unibond prem kncok seven bells of shite out of him when he has nutmegged them for the second time
Perhaps we will never know now which is perhaps a shame for everyone
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Post by spinningdog on Aug 23, 2009 13:41:03 GMT
Hello h,I never heard anyone slating Tyrone over the possibility of bettering himself.You have to remember that from this end all we heard was that Tyrone had signed for us.We only found out the bit about "signing if I havn't got back into the League by August 8" from this forum.When we heard he was trialling at Sheffield Utd most wished him luck,we were just disappointed that we wouldn't see a player who by all accounts from this forum may have excited us.There have been some not pleased he's gone to Macc-we may be Unibond but for some fans it's a feeling that we are still as big a club as they are.Please pass on my good wishes to Ricky for whatever the future holds for him.
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Post by bananarama on Aug 23, 2009 15:08:40 GMT
I do agree with guest on this one, I do think it's nice kirks keeping fans updated on his progress, but he should have stayed with bufc, i've seen him play quite a few times and although very skill full I think he lacks the all round qualities to cut it at that level..if big Keith rated the lad he would have sorted digs out for the lad let's be honest. He's not at that level and should have progressed up the pyramid by moving to Boston..
And h I think your post to guest is interesting as if my memory serves me right didn't you sign up as two people on bufc forum to big your lad up and got caught out!
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Post by Dean on Aug 23, 2009 16:46:46 GMT
I do agree with guest on this one, I do think it's nice kirks keeping fans updated on his progress, but he should have stayed with bufc, i've seen him play quite a few times and although very skill full I think he lacks the all round qualities to cut it at that level..if big Keith rated the lad he would have sorted digs out for the lad let's be honest. He's not at that level and should have progressed up the pyramid by moving to Boston.. And h I think your post to guest is interesting as if my memory serves me right didn't you sign up as two people on bufc forum to big your lad up and got caught out! Is that right H??? !!! Good work son! Fair play... I can understand you wanting to big up someone if it's your son... On that subject, I remember an ex webmaster telling me about why the forum Man of the Match kept getting won by Martin Wormall... Apparently the email addresses of the member who voted most were 'marmy@hotmail.com / badboywormall@hotmail.com / martinw@hotmai.com etc etc !! What a plum!! Also, there's someone on here who kept bigging up Adam Cunnington - I checked back on all their posts and every single post was Cunnington related! Back to the subject, and I can totally see why Tyrone wanted to join Macc.. Yes, Boston are a big club, and play in front of big crowds, but they're not in the football league are they. If I was a football player, i'd want to play league football - end of. That's surely an ambition that everyone would have. Maybe he'll get spotted playing for Rhyl anyway? It seems he wasn't fancied too much by Alexander, but maybe being ill didn't help his cause? Travelling that far to training must have been a nightmare - i know i couldn't perform after a 3hr drive. Anyway, hope he performs well and managed to get back to where he wants to. Good luck to him.
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Post by h on Aug 24, 2009 14:06:16 GMT
I do agree with guest on this one, I do think it's nice kirks keeping fans updated on his progress, but he should have stayed with bufc, i've seen him play quite a few times and although very skill full I think he lacks the all round qualities to cut it at that level..if big Keith rated the lad he would have sorted digs out for the lad let's be honest. He's not at that level and should have progressed up the pyramid by moving to Boston.. And h I think your post to guest is interesting as if my memory serves me right didn't you sign up as two people on bufc forum to big your lad up and got caught out! What that has to do with Tyrone i have no idea, and yes I was registerd twice, but only because I felt I had to make a statement about the boy in my own name, if you remember, when the manager implied he was being greedy . Though you are welcome to disagree, I think most dads would do the same in similar circumstances I also think you'll find if you check, I never as you suggetsed 'bigged' him up, simply for the reason I didn't need to. Thankfully there appeared to be a concencus among Boston supporters that suggested they all liked him and he was doing a half decent job. I didn't even say anything when for the last three maybe four games, so desperate was he to help the team he hid a bad injury from everyone .His knee was totally knackered and he couldn't even run and after the games even walk an injury that prevented him doing per season You dont know me from adam,nor me you, but those who know me will hopefully testify that if asked a quaestion, I will answer with honesty. Even if its an awkward question, I dont hide behind anyone or name, if asked I will always say who I am...and why not? Ricky can be many things bananarama, and a lot of them I frown upon, especially his disciplinary record, but he most certainly is not greedy and of course I will defend him when things are said publicly to the contrary, wouldn't you. But I dont bad mouth the club, its directors or particuarly the supporters, in fact I actually tell everyone what a really great place and club it is Why? Because that's what I genuinely feel But I certainly dont either blinker myself about him his achievements or his abilities nor do I defend him from a position of weakness. If he has a stinker, and fans wish to say so, either whilst on the pitch or in the forums, far from trying to justify why in my opinion he didn't,(I assume that what you mean by bigging him up) I will actually agree with them Apart from Boston supporters, when it was announced he was actually signing questioning how desperate the management must be in signing a teenager from a lower league as the answer to their, at the time woeful, most felt almost imnpossible situation they were always supportive thats why he loved his time there so much. I didn't need to 'big him'up. Obviously you were not one of his admirers bananarama, that is fine, I dont have a problem with that my friend but even though you may choose not to I will let you decide how important you personally feel he was to the teams survival last season (along with Ellie and Aaron ) and how significant his goals were I wont say a word my friend
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Post by h on Aug 24, 2009 14:07:47 GMT
I do agree with guest on this one, I do think it's nice kirks keeping fans updated on his progress, but he should have stayed with bufc, i've seen him play quite a few times and although very skill full I think he lacks the all round qualities to cut it at that level..if big Keith rated the lad he would have sorted digs out for the lad let's be honest. He's not at that level and should have progressed up the pyramid by moving to Boston.. And h I think your post to guest is interesting as if my memory serves me right didn't you sign up as two people on bufc forum to big your lad up and got caught out! I agree with nearly all of that, it was a mistake not joining BUFC
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Post by Dean on Aug 24, 2009 14:51:12 GMT
I do agree with guest on this one, I do think it's nice kirks keeping fans updated on his progress, but he should have stayed with bufc, i've seen him play quite a few times and although very skill full I think he lacks the all round qualities to cut it at that level..if big Keith rated the lad he would have sorted digs out for the lad let's be honest. He's not at that level and should have progressed up the pyramid by moving to Boston.. And h I think your post to guest is interesting as if my memory serves me right didn't you sign up as two people on bufc forum to big your lad up and got caught out! I agree with nearly all of that, it was a mistake not joining BUFC Maybe in hindsight H, but I know that if I was offered a full-time contract with a club in the football League, I know where i'd go... Tyrone has played Unibond Prem, so why go back to it if you have the chance of league football?
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Post by h on Aug 24, 2009 18:08:15 GMT
If what Tyrone said was true Dean, and the wages offered would have left him skint, if he had paid for his lodgings, the financially the deal cant have been as brilliant as the opportunity itself
Of course you have to take a view between renumeration and opportunity, and probably given the same choice I would have opted for the same asTyrone did, but without having to resort to hindsight Dean, surely its not hard to weigh up the opportunity and what it would cost to realise that opportunity
Maybe the lad simply didn't do the sums accurately enough, and I still maintain with a club like Boston, where so many scouts visit over the season, he would if performing have attracted much attention.
If Boston get near the top of the league as well, it would also mean 2500 supporters watching, how big a buzz would that be?
Wow. Either way as with any player that remains popular and pretty loyal it has to be said, one can only hope the lads decisions prove the correct ones
To be fair that why I hate people hiding behind annonimity who come on, not just here, but any site, with the express purpose of slating players. We all criticise players, myself included,if you pay an entrance fee, I think you have the right to do so, but if I do, then I do it under my name and hopefully in a way, however forcefully put that isn't taken as being down right nasty
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